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Siim



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:40 pm    Post subject: Which way to choose? Reply with quote

First of all let me introduce myself as it is my first post. My name is Siim, I come from Estonia and I am currently living in Germany.

My dream is to own a fully functional cockpit of a Boeing 757/767 one day. However, as my options are currently rather limited by often moving from one place to another I would like to start with something small like the CDU unit. I've decided to buy the CDU Kit by FDS. But there's still the question on how to go through the electrical part of the construction. So far I've considered the Hagstrom KE72, the Photon FlightDeck Control System and an EPIC. The cheapest and probably the easiest way would be the KE72. But I do plan to build something bigger in the future and in this case, this would not be enough. So my question basically is, should I spend the extra $100 and buy the EPIC in order to have less expenses in the future or settle for the KE72 because the EPIC is still rather complicated and requires some programming knowledge which I don't have (except some simple things in Visual Basic lol:P). Is the EPIC Language very hard to learn and to get the hang of?

You may answer here or mail me et siim(a)fscentre.com ( the (a)=@ I'm just avoiding spam).

Siim.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:22 pm    Post subject: CDU... Reply with quote

Its actually far simpler than you think.
As far as wiring in a CDU.. you should be using that with a KE24. Less $$$
and no problem handling everything.
In a large sim project you would not likely need to have a bigger interface system unvolved in the CDU. An FDS CDU with software running would likely stay the same way through the entire process.
Magenta users have a dedicated compuyer and that would not be changed.
EPIC, FSBus or interfaceIT are really designed more for other functions and Displays.
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Siim



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but the reason I have considered EPIC and more expensive solutions is my wish to build something bigger and more complicated, possibly a full size cockpit in the future and I thought it would be easier and less expensive to expand the system if I bought an EPIC or FSBus or whatever already now...
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Claes



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Peter. I have just finished building the second CDU and both are driven through Hagstrom KE24 keyboard encoders. The CDU is "only" a different keyboard and not complicated at all to put together once you get the grip of the logics behind it. EPIC, or any other similar inteface, is something you will need to get all rotary encoders etc to inteface with FS. For the CDU it is not necessary, not even desirable. Keep those things apart IMHO.

/Claes
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pcos
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:28 pm    Post subject: Wiring Reply with quote

I was only talking about the CDU oortion of your sim. A KE24 running that piece will not change. You can use any interface system for the other parts of your setup.
You may find that you have a limited amount if inputs and its simpler to have the KE24 running in Matrix mode to cover the 70 keys of the CDU..
James Price still uses a Keyboard encoder on his CDU. Last I heard. Smile
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Siim



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thanks very much for your answers then. I won't consider anything bigger than the KE24 or KE72 in the near furure Smile.
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Siim



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more question about the wiring. Is any wire provided together with the CDU kit? I just found myself wondering where I could get all the needed wire as I haven't noticed such stuff in electronics shops...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Wiring Reply with quote

The Elite CDU will only require a Hard Drive Cable long enough to reach between the unit and the KE24 encoder.
I am trying to source this now and at some point will add it into the package. PC
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Siim



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. At least for now, all my questions seem to be answered. Now I just have to save some money to be able to buy it.
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ribel



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the difference between the KE24 and the LP24? The LP24 is even less $$$. RS232 interface seems to be the only difference. Is this required?
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